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By Catherine Ostheimer

Legal innovators gathered in New York City last week for a one-day legal tech conference with customized knowledge session tracks for law firms and in-house legal teams. Topics ranged from turning an in-house team from a cost center to a cost savings center, balancing risk, and innovation, navigating data privacy, and successfully handling emerging and long-term eDiscovery challenges.

Here is a sampling of just some of the incisive commentary and practical direction dispensed.

Tackling Cross Border and Modern Data in eDiscovery

An expert group of speakers discussed the data privacy regulatory and compliance considerations that arise with managing the intricacies of eDiscovery across borders.

Dera Nevin, former data policy and strategy officer at The Blackstone Group, said that planning is a critical first step to global data management. She recommends you know your data location and line it up with common litigation issues you face. When it comes to handling eDiscovery for a cross border matter, consult with the privacy officer or attorney in each jurisdiction, so that you do not open yourself up to contractual claims if you transfer data.

eDiscovery modern data management was another hot topic. Sandra Metallo-Barragan, Proskauer Rose’s eDiscovery Counsel, referenced that expanding data types require additional attention and said it is important to know that employee’s business and personal lives are intertwined, and that while some conversations are in email, others may be in LinkedIn or elsewhere. Now more than ever legal teams should be aware of data sources used.

Jennifer Altman, partner at Pillsbury Winthrop Shaw Pittman, further elaborated on this point, saying that data has become invasive, and that most data systems are siloed and that it is not easy to pull data sources together. Yani Indrajana Ho, associate general counsel at LG, remarked that lawyers within a company are in a position of power when it comes to data management, and that it is important to get ahead of it before your next case: know your data location and how to retrieve it. At 200-year-old Con Edison, associate general counsel Tayo Kinnane explained that there are still a lot of old paper documents, but with the increase in electronically stored data and types, they now have a robust data retention policy in place that is core to their information governance approach. She also said that Con Edison created a cross functional team to identify what systems and apps are being used, what data is produced, and how to protect and mitigate holding data. A parallel effort is the IT team’s focus on streamlining the number of apps used by employees when conducting business.

When it comes to cutting back on the data you hold, Harry Halikias, Cybersecurity Officer, New York Public Library, made this point from a data security standpoint and his organization’s efforts to not hold personal data: “…we practice data privacy by design. If we do not have it, it cannot be stolen.”

Balancing Cost Management and Legal Innovation

Reducing cost remains a constant goal of corporate legal teams. In one of the in-house team track discussions, Andrea Webster, associate director of legal innovation and operations, suggested ways for corporate legal teams to get started on cost savings, including:

• Analyzing current legal processes and consider outsourcing core activity
• Exploring use of alternative fee arrangements (AFAs) for outside counsel firms
• Using cloud-based solutions that can reduce the cost of an installed on-premise solution
• Prioritizing employee training and development so they can effectively use the tech from the onset
• Taking control of outside counsel spend through having open communication with your law firm(s) on how they can consider cutting costs in areas like eDiscovery by evaluating alternative technology

Transforming a Legal Team from a Cost Center to a Cost Savings Center

In another all-in-house legal team discussion, Elizabeth Rancourt-Smith, Director of Legal Operations at Tilson, raised the importance of legal ops to an organization as it helps to reset the over-reliance of doing things the tried-and-true way. “Law is based on precedent; thinking into future does not come naturally to lawyers. But it makes sense in business to be forward thinking.”

Tyson Roy, Director of Legal Innovation, AVP, Senior Counsel at Liberty Mutual, talked about the importance of cross-team collaboration, storytelling and encouraging people to take smart risks to change the way work gets done for the better. In a regular Innovation Hero blog he shares with Liberty Mutual employees, innovation successes and failures are highlighted, a rare occurrence in the corporate world.

Allison Morpurgo, Managing Director, Deputy General Counsel at UBS, said her role has evolved to not only focus on selecting the right outside counsel, but also to make better use of the lawyers and provide them with easy-to-use technology to reduce spending. “We know we are successful when lawyers are willing to try new tech instead of falling back on old ways of working,” explained Morpurgo.

Navigating Data Privacy and Gen AI

Generative AI was on the table for discussion as well. Counsel at Robinson+Cole, Jennifer Driscoll, called it the next wave in legal research. Yet data privacy issues loom. Model development requires detailed data, and if that data includes personally identifiable information, be careful. She also cautioned about use of solutions like ChatGPT, and reminded all that a prompt cannot be deleted, and if an associate enters the details of case, he/she could be waiving attorney/client privilege.

Driscoll also talked about data privacy regulation developments in Europe which will likely impact the US soon, with the EU AI Act being negotiated now. “Once this is out, other jurisdictions will follow,” she predicts.

To learn more about how CloudNine can help you to handle eDiscovery modern data challenges and reduce the cost of eDiscovery, learn more about CloudNine Analyst and/or reach out to us to schedule a consultation.

Catherine Ostheimer is VP, Marketing at CloudNine and has been working in the legal technology industry for 8+ years.

By Catherine Ostheimer

This year’s ILTACON, held at the Walt Disney World (WDW) hotel properties in Orlando covering a 430,000+ square foot campus, was a spectacular event on many levels. For one, seemingly few of the 3,400 attendees complained about the long walks in 90-degree heat required to attend educational sessions and meetings. Energy ran high throughout the conference despite the heat and expansive conference grounds. Secondly, the interest in emerging tech like Generative AI, automation, and short message data eDiscovery solutions has gone from “what is it,” to “how to apply” this tech to legal work for better results now. In other words, the ILTACON community is more tech savvy than ever before. The “tomorrow” of the legal industry has arrived.

Here are our main takeaways from the panels we attended in between meetings with customers and partners.

Understanding How Remote Work and AI Has Changed the Legal World Forever: ILTA 2023 Tech Survey Results

TJ Johnson from Qualitest, Todd Corham from Saul Ewing and others presented preliminary findings from this year’s ILTA Technology Survey. New topics for 2023 included emerging desktop applications, generative AI tools, collaborative apps and hybrid strategies. The full survey results will be published soon. In the meantime, here are high level findings:

• Generative AI is named by most respondents as the emerging tech that will have significant impact on the legal tech profession
• Out of those saying they are applying generative AI to their work; the app that the majority surveyed are using is Chat GPT
• Top three uses for generative AI: initial drafts, writing presentations and brainstorming ideas. Although panelists agreed that it is still too early to have a clear view of all uses
• Cloud adoption continues to rise, with a noted jump in adoption in the past year or two. Reasons for leaning towards cloud include improved access to solution, better data security, and faster release of new features
• In the words of one of the panelists, “As a community, you have risen to the challenge (of implementing tech that helps with remote work) this past year”
• Cloud-based apps are being used primarily for email, time/billing, payroll, document management and eDiscovery
• Well over half of professional staff at law firms are using laptops daily (it will be interesting to see if there is a swing back to desktop use in next year’s survey with many firms opting for work from office policies)

Navigating Tech Deployment in a Hybrid World 

Helpful suggestions were shared in a roundtable panel on how to ensure success with hardware and software deployments, in a post-pandemic hybrid work environment, with a mix of hybrid office consultants, tech provider implementation experts and IT leaders from companies weighing in.

At the start of the discussion panelists covered causes of potential project failures, including lack of buy-in from key stakeholders, little to no project planning, and unclear requirements and accountability. Regarding accountability, there should be a clear view of who is responsible for the project success, as well as who is the lead in getting the work done.

Wade Goldt, COO, Helient, shared tips on involving stakeholders early on. Goldt shared “You need to not just include the executive team early on, but also employees as well as vendors.” Ashleigh Allberry, COO, Maptician stressed the importance of stakeholder communications, and “making it apparent using data why this rollout matters. What benefits to employees, customers and shareholders will it bring?”

Lathrop GPM, Chief Information Officer, Adam Yantorni, along with Allberry, covered what to expect when it comes to tech rollouts in a hybrid environment, and included these tips:

• Implementations are shorter: the expectation is to deliver faster. It is best to put more time into planning, and then make implementation timeframe shorter
• Leadership buy-in is a must: Start dialogue early and understand goals of each leader to align project goals with theirs
• Ownership is needed at all levels: With the hybrid experience now a part of many organizations’ culture, employees need to be involved in the design of a rollout experience. Seek input and support from each firm location from mid-level staff, those individuals who can be responsible for local training and rollout

When it comes getting “new solution” use at all levels, in another session on new litigation management tech, Catherine McPherson, Legal Technology Strategist at Bartlit Beck, shared that to get all to start doing things a new way, sell it as a lifestyle choice, to make your daily work life easier.

Tackling the Growing eDiscovery Challenge: Modern Data

An expert panel provided helpful insights into how to collect, review and produce short message data. Monica Harris, Product Business Manager at Cellebrite provided stats from her company’s research showing that within the private sector, mobile phone data is now closing in on surpassing data collected from computers. Short message data is created from the conversational exchange taking place via a messaging or social media application, like Teams, Slack, Zoom, Snapchat, etc. Complexity in dealing with this data in eDiscovery will continue to intensify as the number of users, platforms and volume and data increases year over year. Tips shared by Nordo Nissi, Goulston & Storrs, and others included:

• Conducting an early case assessment (ECA) to determine the who, what, where, when, why and how of a collection
• Determining scope of collection. Do you need just basic data from a mobile device like SMS/MMS, Contacts, Call History and Media, or on the other side of the spectrum, this plus application data, device information, the full file system and deleted data?
• Consider using the newly released EDRM Text Messaging Metadata Primer as a reference model. This work in progress is designed to promote clarity and uniformity for text and instant message data productions

When it comes to processing, take the time to understand what file format you are dealing with for each data type, i.e., JSON, RSMF, native etc. and know your review strategy and if any ESI protocol is in place. Aim to standardize how data is rendered. On this last point, consider where or not your eDiscovery solution can render data in near native format like CloudNine Analyst can.

This overview covers only one small slice of the rich information shared at this year’s ILTACON. Our biggest takeaway? The legal tech community is stronger than ever, and new ways of getting work done are more than accepted; they are being used today.

Catherine Ostheimer is VP, Marketing at CloudNine and has been working in the legal technology industry for 8+ years.

By Catherine Ostheimer

Being responsive to the growing number of Access Requests and DSARS as a local government organization can be daunting.

First, there’s the data management challenge. State and local groups generate and store vast amounts of data across numerous departments, committees, and systems. Managing and processing this volume of data for eDiscovery for litigation, investigations and public records requests across multiple departments can be overwhelming. There is also the issue of dealing effectively with different formats and sources during the discovery process, such as emails, documents, social media, collaboration app chats, and more.

Privacy and security concerns with sensitive and confidential information and staying compliant with jurisdiction-specific laws and regulations like the General Data Protection Regulation (GDPR) and the Health Insurance Portability and Accountability Act (HIPAA) is an ongoing challenge. Other burdens are resource constraints, including limited budgets, staff, and access to affordable technology.

Here are tips for managing the eDiscovery side of Access Requests for those working at a state or local government organization:

1. Understand the legal landscape. Obviously, you need to familiarize yourself with applicable local laws and regulations governing eDiscovery, including the Federal Rules of Civil Procedure and any other state-specific rules. But you also need to stay on top of ever-changing regulations governing eDiscovery in your jurisdiction.
2. Develop policies. Two important processes to establish for anyone handling eDiscovery for a local government organization are 1) documenting an eDiscovery protocol outlining your organization’s procedures for identifying, preserving, collecting, reviewing, and producing electronic evidence, and 2) implementing a document retention policy, including collaborating with your IT team to put technical measures in place to support the policy.
3. Educate and train staff. Conduct regular training sessions for employees to increase their awareness of eDiscovery requirements and their responsibilities for preserving and producing relevant data, especially emerging data types like texts, chat, and social media data.
4. Engage in Early Case Assessment (ECA). Performing ECA for any cases involving potential litigation will help you evaluate the scope and costs of eDiscovery so that you can make informed decisions about litigation strategy, settlement negotiations and the need for outside experts. Read more on putting an ECA process in place.
5. Regularly evaluate and update processes. Continuously assess and refine your eDiscovery processes based on learnings from previous cases and stay informed about industry best practices and emerging technologies, and technology alternatives that may be easier to use and less expensive than your current technology.
6. Be prepared to scale your eDiscovery work. Beyond Access Requests, it is the unforeseen litigation matters that can catch eDiscovery teams off guard, and in the government area, these cases often involve gathering and reviewing data from hundreds, if not thousands of individuals. Do your research and identify technology and service partners who can help you scale during workload surges.

The CloudNine team has deep experience in handling Access Requests and eDiscovery effectively and efficiently for state and local organizations. Contact us to find out how we can help support your needs with our on-premise and SaaS eDiscovery solutions and an array of professional services.

Catherine Ostheimer is VP, Marketing at CloudNine and has been working in the legal technology industry for 8+ years.

By Rick Clark

Highlights from this event are covered below.

Exceeding Corporate Client Expectations

The first session of the conference, moderated by Richard Clark from CloudNine, focused on introducing new ways of deepening the relationship between corporate in-house and outside counsel. The discussions led by Janice D’Costa from Meta and Amie Taal from Stratagem Tech showcased innovative and clever ways to surpass corporate client expectations. The main topics covered in this session included:

• Bespoke Solutions: In the face of rapidly evolving technology, corporate communication cultures, and cost pressures, outside counsel must present tailor-made solutions to their corporate clients. Cookie cutter approaches are no longer adequate, and legal teams need to adapt to the unique needs of their clients.
• Alternative Fee Arrangements: Flexibility in cost structures, such as catering fees to individual cases or annual spends, can create mutually beneficial partnerships between firms and clients. By aligning fees with client needs, firms can strengthen their relationships and demonstrate their commitment to client success.
• Know How Data Impacts Cases: With data playing an increasingly crucial role in legal matters, it is essential to have up-to-date Information Governance (IG) policies. This ensures that companies are well-prepared for litigation or investigations, which may involve handling communications data from various platforms like Slack, Teams, and messaging apps. Law firms can find ways to help in-house teams with data management if the need exists.

How Law Firms and In-House Teams Win Through Collaboration

• Collaboration Across Legal Issues: Throughout the day, the conference emphasized the importance of collaboration between in-house, outside counsel, and software/service providers to address various legal challenges. Notably, this collaborative approach was evident in discussions about these common challenges for U.K.-based organizations:
  • GDPR: As data privacy regulations continue to evolve, companies must work together to navigate the complexities of GDPR compliance and data protection.
  • The UK’s Response to the EU Artificial Intelligence Act: By collaborating and sharing knowledge, legal professionals can adapt to regulatory changes and leverage AI advancements responsibly.
  • Information Governance: Building on the earlier discussion, experts highlighted the need for robust Information Governance practices to safeguard data integrity and compliance.

To summarize, despite the diverse range of topics discussed at the conference, the main takeaways can be recapped as follows:

• Collaborate: Success in the legal industry hinges on effective collaboration between professionals, clients, and technology. Working together ensures the best outcomes for each engagement.
• Get Your Data House in Order: Legal teams must work closely with IT and other relevant teams to ensure data accessibility for eDiscovery, investigations, or other legal processes. Simultaneously, data that is no longer necessary must have a clear destruction plan to safeguard against unnecessary risks.
• Embrace AI, With Care: While Generative Artificial Intelligence (GAI offers tremendous potential for legal professionals in areas like TAR workflows, content creation, and automation. It is essential to approach its implementation thoughtfully. Most discussions highlighted GAI as an enhancement rather than a replacement for current employee positions.

The Master’s Conference in London proved to be an informative event that underscored the importance of collaboration, Information Governance, eDiscovery/eDisclosure and the responsible adoption of AI in the legal industry. Participants gained valuable insights from a global perspective. CloudNine looks forward to the next set of Master’s Conferences in Columbus, OH (September 14), New York (October 18) and Atlanta (November 9.) Contact us if you are interested in learning more about these events, or how we can help you simplify and reduce the time and cost of eDiscovery.

Rick Clark is VP, Strategic Partnerships at CloudNine and has 20+ years of experience in forensics and eDiscovery. Focused on innovation and education, he co-founded ESI Analyst, now CloudNine Analyst, as well as Wave Software and the Master’s Conference.

By Catherine Ostheimer

A recurring theme surfacing in our discussions with our law firm customers especially is the demand for legal tech software platforms to provide simple, straightforward functionality in an easy-to-use solution. Having an eDiscovery solution that speeds work and helps teams to complete a project on time and accurately is critical, but overpaying for software with an overabundance of features is something many are avoiding in today’s economic climate.

Besides the “simplicity matters” theme, another topic raised is the increasing need to provide sound rationale for technology investments at a time that every dollar spent is being scrutinized. We have learned from our best customers that applying a proven framework to your tech investment discussions with finance teams helps accelerate approvals. The framework is centered on connecting with finance teams in four areas:

• Business strategy alignment: How does technology relate to corporate goals?
• Value proposition: Are you improving efficiency or helping manage costs? What is the total cost of ownership (TCO) and return on investment (ROI)?
• Timing: How does this initiative fit in with current and future priorities?
• Implementation: What is required in terms of money and people to get this done?

Download a copy of our white paper on these themes, “A Return to Value in eDiscovery: Why Simplicity and Cost Matter Now.”

Catherine Ostheimer is VP, Marketing at CloudNine and has been working in the legal technology industry for 8+ years.

By Catherine Ostheimer

Last month’s Corporate Legal Operations Consortium (CLOC) Global Institute was an educational and networking event powerhouse, offering over 75 educational sessions and multiple opportunities for networking for those interested in the latest ways to transform legal and get more work done well, and efficiently.

If you have read some of the excellent recaps already published, you will know that the topics dominating the agenda included generative AI, creating a world class legal function, and improving operations in the CLOC Core 12 legal operations work areas, including contract lifecycle management, case management and eDiscovery.

In her talk “The Next Frontier of Legal Work: Generative AI,” Mary O’Carroll, chief community officer, Ironclad, and co-founder of CLOC, described generative AI as a front burner topic “that has the potential to change everything” when it comes to legal work. She suggested to 1) learn from other industries and to see how they are using it, 2) have clear processes and data governance in place to get the most out of it, and 3) be committed to it as it’s a fast-changing conversation and its capability to evolve legal work, i.e., redlining a contract based on your playbook, changes often.

Many other insights were shared. Key takeaways include advice shared in a panel on building a world class legal function by Megan Niedermeyer, chief legal officer at Apollo.io and Akshay Verma, head of legal operations at Coinbase, on how to implement changes to a risk adverse group: lawyers. Megan explained that the legal department is “the last business to be SaaS-fied.” Today more legal department leaders are open to turning to cloud-based technology to streamline work and improve outcomes. She advised that putting new technology in place successfully requires having a clear vision for your department. She also suggested that a technologist and a project manager are two key hires that will help with implementation. Verma shared that it’s important to remember that people are self-interest based. In rolling out a new way of working, you need to center communications on a common pain point. He pointed out that “…part of the legal ops role is playing psychologist and understanding what drives people.”

Now that the conference has ended, what do you do with this information? How do you make it actionable? Where do you get started?

It’s all about prioritizing effort. As CLOC board member, legal operations leader at Netflix and community rockstar Jenn McCarron said in the opening keynote, one of the biggest myths about change is that transformation means doing a lot. This is a fallacy. Burn out is high when there are 20+ initiatives to direct. “…acts of success are often come about often, as a result of what you don’t do,” she advised.

Couple this sage advice with the practical framework offered by the session “What’s the Plan? Actionable Steps to Create Your 30/60/90 Day Plan and Beyond” and you have solid footing at the starting gate of change. Stacy Lettie, Chief of Staff to the General Counsel of Organon and, and Bob Mignanelli, VP and COO at Haleon, provided a framework for managing the first 90 days of being in a legal operations leadership role.

Example steps shared on getting on the right path to be an effective, transformative legal operations leader are as follows:

First 30 days:

• Understand goals of the legal department overall
• Define the department’s focus: vision, mission, and key objectives
• Determine team structure, reporting line
• Meet with each practice area to learn about the services, pain points, what’s working/not working, identify expectations
• Meet with everyone on your team 1:1, listen to understand what drives them, what frustrates them
• Assess existing processes for matter management, onboarding vendor process, etc.
• Understand tech/services landscape, and what contracts are coming up for renewal
• Identify gaps in process and tech

By the 60-day mark:

• Conduct spend analysis and identify where there may be overlap, where are you paying for items you shouldn’t be paying for, etc.
• Pinpoint and execute “quick wins,” e.g., creating outside counsel guidelines
• Update and document most utilized processes
• Understand current data sources
• Create and begin reporting on metrics

By the 90-day mark:

• Devise your strategic plan, to include:
• Corporate/legal department strategy
• Mission, vision, objectives
• Current state analysis
• Gap analysis-current state versus future state
• Resource requirements
• Success/risk factors and timelines
• Ensure implementation goes well
• Gain executive support
• Put strong project management and change management in place
• Build communication plan, to include celebrating success
• Prioritize: Determine the three to four things that will drive the strategy
• Areas may include tackling outside counsel spend, contract lifecycle management, and/or creating an IP system to drive revenue. (At CloudNine, we believe there is also tremendous opportunity in looking at ways to reduce the biggest cost of litigation, eDiscovery.)

And there you have thoughts on ways to put all you learned into action post CLOC and set yourself up for planning for 2024, which will be here before we know it. Ask for a complimentary consultation with us if you want to learn more about how CloudNine can make it easy for you to take control of your eDiscovery costs and develop smart workflows for managing modern data (i.e., Slack/Teams chat data, texts, etc.) in eDiscovery with our SaaS-based solutions and services here.

Catherine Ostheimer is VP, Marketing at CloudNine and has been working in the legal technology industry for 8+ years.